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rod.

Thanks for linking to my blog.

I found your blog a week ago or so, and I must congratulate you for a rather informative and interesting blog! Given that you address many topics that I also have addressed in my blog, I must assume we have overlapping interests.

I am also very much intrigued by whether technical analysis can actually beat the market. I guess that is the ultimate challenge for anyone interesting in applying math to real world situations. Given that many big players in the finance industry have financed research divisions withing their companies, I would say that technical analysis certainly does give an edge on the market, but beating the market might be a bit more difficult.

One topic that seems to underestimated sometimes is the role that computation plays in the process... even if you had the right theory to predict all the market fluctuations, you probably would end up having a highly complex mathematical model, and if you want models to be used, then such models need to be implemented in computers. Having a lot of computer power would certainly help beat the market. That's obvious, but what I find fascinating would be to optimize algorithms and computer architectures to cope with the challenges being faced. It's an extremely difficult task, but alluring still.

rod.

This is not very relevant, but still:

in Wikipedia, it is said that David Shaw's father was an efficients market theorist, while in the 1997 article on Wired Magazine ("the phynancier"), it is mentioned that Shaw's father was indeed a physicist. Apparently his grandfather was the efficients market theorist, while his father was also a theorist (plasma physics). Wikipedia is probably wrong on this.

Alan J

Rod:

You're most welcome - you have a good one (blog). Thanks for your comment. Looking through all your archived finance posts is on my to-do list. We definately have a lot of overlapping interests!

Beating the market is no easy task, but I think these "super quants" illustrate that it can be done. I am currently coding a computerized system to attempt to do exactly that. It is an alluring, fun and hopefully rewarding task. That said, I'm saving complex math for later, because I think there's some low-hanging fruit around. I'm not sure what you mean by optimization. Optimization of the trading strategy is not high on my list because of the danger of overoptimization. Optimizing the algorithms to run faster is a whole other matter. I think my system will be scalable, and I'll definately install a server farm to compute 24/7 if it can pay for itself, but some optimization will save on the a/c bills ;-).

Thanks for the heads up on D. Shaw's father/grandfather. I'll update the post.

Charlie

David Shaw's father was a scientist, his stepfather taught business school but I don't think he is published or a theorist.

gord

A floor full of whiteboards covered in differential geome... hmm.. thats a nice place to work.

Information arbitrage, information propagation/diffusion models seem to be todays fad, but I wonder if there ever _will_ be a time when arbitrage is impossible...it would mean we perfectly understood nature, right?

fad

Its interesting the methods you are using to make money, good for you for being success, but at the same time the fact that you are using complex mathematics that are hard to regulate makes the morality of what you are doing something to question.

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